Today, a friend on facebook posed the following question: “There are at least 38,000 denominations of Christianity. You say yours is true. Why? Explain.”
Instead of taking the bait and indulging directly his question—as I doubt he was really interested in or would have the patience for any kind of a serious attempt at a response—I replied instead with the following missve of my own creation:
Truth is all there is, ever was, or ever will be—regardless of our beliefs and perceptions. Furthermore, logic and reason are artifacts of the human mind--truth is independent of these.
Well, we'll see if he or anyone else takes the bait on that one :-)
I then had the following exchange with a friend of my friend about the missive I posted:
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Mykey Thatcher [Physics teacher at the U of Utah]: That last statement is the root of illogical superstition and the basis of every poor philosophy. Let's dispel it.
Logic is the most natural thing there is, and is not an artifact of the human mind. That's why there's a point to science.
If... logic and reason were an artifact of the human mind, then logically the world couldn't have existed before the human mind. There were logical steps that led even to us. No human mind would mean no logic, which means stars don't necessarily follow hydrogen clouds and million other logical steps.
If logic and reason have no basis in reality, then there is no such thing as logic and reason. And if truth is independent of logic and reason, then it's no different from fantasy. This is why I 'refudiate' :) the idea above anytime I see it. It's the basis of religious belief.
My Reply: Mykey, thanks for your reply. So, recognizing that I am not the brightest bulb on the block, let me see if I get what you are saying. Are you claiming that logic is not a human convention? It sounds to me as if you are arguing that logic is the same as truth--that logic is the same as what is, what has been, and what will be.
Although I agree logic and reason are useful for discerning and determining what is true, for me, logic is merely a structural, hierarchical method of inference the human mind has developed to make sense of the world it perceives to be real.
I believe there are many things that may be logical, or that appear to be logical, but which are not necessarily true. For human logic or reasoning to always be true, all premises on which that logic is based must always be known to be true--and this is simply not the case and can never be the case unless you are omniscient.
So, I suppose that if you are God, or a god, or god-like, with respect to being omniscient, then in that case logic is indeed the same as truth and one is not distinguishable from the other.
The scientific method is what it claims to be--a methodology for falsifying a hypothesis or for providing possible evidence of truth. But the great flaw of the scientific method is that it is ultimately still dependent on a degree human subjectivity and fallibility in terms of perception and logic--both within the process of concocting a hypothesis and in the deriving of conclusions based on observed results.
As a final note, I believe that true religion and true science will never conflict or contradict because they are one in the same. Truth is truth. All truth is absolute within the realm in which it is operable and applicable, and, is also relative to all other truths.”
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Whew! And now it's late and I get to go to sleep now and I'll get to relate about my date with BJ perhaps tomorrow :-)